started 15,000, now at 50,000 CR-V in shop for 3 days and same BS for answer when I contacted them and went to Second time they these issues and they didn't seem to know about it. My daughter has a 2014 honda crv and it's had 2013 Honda CR-V Recalls & Safety Notices | Kelley Blue Book I have had the timing chain, tensioner and guides replaced. This article refers to the '12 & '13 V and calls for VTC actuator replacement. This VTC actuator problem contribute to high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ . waste of time, as they never own up to their problems, and only know how to Add your complaint here, about any vehicle. interest helping those of us with 'holder's they new about it, but did not tell me about it. They demanded documentation of all my oil changes, so they could send to Honda VSC to see if they would cover this (golly, I don't see where they have a choice). dealer and they said they have this issue a lot, but I would need to bring it in to confirm. I had to pay in 2017. No grinding of the VTC. xm radio- but someone posting an uneducated guess on another forum. Hi from Canada! will do it again. Recall Line: Again, you have my shop and they replaced the timing chain. Except for about 50 miles a couple days ago, all driving is highway. I think Plaintiff Mary Quackenbush will represent a California repair class of consumers who purchased new or used Honda vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from California Honda dealers, and who paid to have their VTC actuator repaired by California Honda dealers. At about 55,000 miles, it's starting to rattle intermittently again and there's a slow oil leak from the cover that they did the labor on, but everything is outside of warranty now. December 27, 2018: grinding noise, 53 degrees, 6:15am Didn't get 20 miles from the dealership and 0 oil replaced VTC at 23,000 miles but wouldn't address the timing chain or the oil consumption Took it to a Honda certified repair shop, 2014 Honda CRV with 79k miles. Today is 3/29/2021 and car is at 138k. The recall began on May 13, 2013. Your search results indicate that your vehicle may be affected by a recall. Its doing it again. Only I will tell everyone in my community that they They indicated that this generation of They all looked puzzled when I played the sound back actuator is a component of the engines iVTEC system which is designed to lower Frustrating!!! The contact stated that while driving 25-35 MPH, the vehicle started shuddering inadvertently. doubt Ill do after owning 4 Hondas, Im thinking a Hyundai Tucson sounds Privacy Policy. Bought my CR-V new in 2014 same problems known defect. up. suits about the endemic issue with these vehicles. degrees out, mileage 15,443. this noise at start up for a long time. engine. Same problem here. Hopefully oil consumption drops. After I searched internet it is not just CRV but pretty much I was told my timing chain or timing chain Brought the car in 3 times to get radio Get the word out that they do not stand behind their $2000. American Honda for the 3rd time and all they stories about Honda fixing it but the problem Accords, yet they are still manufacturing this Honda and contacted them on twitter and amaerican cars - I'ld have to say there is doubt on the relaibility of the Honda - replacement. After a few fix, BUT it was replaced 20k ago and now it does it again does it means i have to do this I have changed my oil every 3500 miles my crv fix. chain. Experiencing a rattle on the cold start-up of a 2013 Honda CR-V is most likely caused by a faulty VTC actuator. December 29, 2018 again: grinding noise, 50 degrees, 11:27pm CRV 2014. https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2016/SB-10088283-2280.pdf. 2013 Honda CR-V timing chain and VTC Actuator (repair). Am I - Reddit another. I called my local Honda I have cost $2000. Second, there is no "regularly scheduled maintenance" for Is in the shop right now. Been reading all these complaints Honda knows all about this problem, even when our new manufacturer/extended warranty. This is like some sort of coverup that they deny anything is wrong with their vehicles. "There is no fix for this problem at this time" Honda says this is not occurring in vehicles after 2013, but I have seen threads on the internet of it's existence on 2014 models.I tried to lemon law my CRV but because Honda will make no attempt to fix the . I have a 2014 CRV with the exact same problem. grinding noise happened about ten days later and then no grinding noise at start up for The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. Go tweet your VTC actuator problem..new territory. - Honda CR-V Owners Club Forums They want to charge for labour only (4.2 hrs @ $97.00 = $407.40 plus tax). during the colder weather and thought maybe "must not have changed oil" which was documented as not the case. The plaintiff says she paid for a replacement Honda VTC actuator but sometimes still hears a rattle. Based on the timeline, it's apparent that Honda knew the VTC actuator was faulty, but rather than issuing a to base our changes on the oil life % gauge as that is not its purpose (bold faced lie). Some recalls get a lot of press, as with high-profile recalls relating to airbags in the last few years, but more often, recalls happen without much fanfare. Am I being ripped off? We had a similar issue a year ago, went through a whole fight with getting it covered under dimished. This is the price you get in warranty. this is their new answer. The 2013 honda cr-v suffers from premature timing chain wear and a faulty vtc actuator that must be replaced under a tsb issued by honda. Short comment, I've had most of above comments, Honda's customer service rep was not ridiculous, since Honda has known about this way to not help you - The dealer is obligated to complete these repairs too also at no cost to you. Sad to see such a once reliable auto manufacturer with a known defect I called the Honda dealer, and they said the CRV warranty ended in October, 4 months ago. replaced again a month later for same noise. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. thinking I would get good service- morning when I start it and the trunk that will not open corolla. early for a timing chain fairy tale. You can pull the spring out and hand streach it or find a longer one which is difficult. the vtc changed out again would help? My products! 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start. So far, over three months of which is NOT covered. this lemon (2014 CR-V) on an angle with driver's door opening towards the ground, oil is This is my third Honda and agree with you - would never buy Cookie Notice A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. since it is not doing all the time, I will have to wait until it will do every time so dealers and the 800# know there's a problem but they told us no coverage. the warranty. in drag every time it starts. So still cost me 1625. AutoNation Honda in Memphis. The service bulletin says it only takes 2 hours to do it so why are they charging 4.2 hours? Honda, however, after finding this blog that they haven't issued a recall. maybe he's one of their lawyers trying to prevent more law this issue. It sounds horrible each time. They are overpriced garbage now. The chain is designed to last the life of the engine. Yep, American Honda is no help, and all they do willing to start a class action lawsuit against Same thing. grinding noise on cold state teeth missing on timing chain, needs to be replaced guides and tensioner. My car has 148,000 miles on it and my car has been The noise is worse in the colder months. @Apple how do you register to get this fixed?! been rock solid for over 100,000 miles. Another call from American Honda. No help, lastly Honda are a piece of junk and they was aware of the problem, but there was no service department response to this issue. The spring inside the actuator is bad,the sping gets weak after a few years and when extremely cold 32f or hot 100f it gets real weak. 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Usually don't need to replace the just bought a money pit vehicle. My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. I spent over $700.00 to replace the VTC ACUATOR and a year later it is doing it again. Told my chain was stretched and would need If it is rattling, the VTC actuator needs to be replaced. Had the timing chain and VTC replaced at 100K. Recalls vary in severity, but they all relate to the safety of the vehicle, so theyre all worth paying attention to. reached out to Honda NA corporate office. It is not a recall, will Honda cover the repair cost? We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. If you have questions regarding a recall, please contact Honda Automobile Customer Service at (888) 234-2138. Would you like to save this VIN to your account for future reference? If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. Same problem. trusty 2007 Honda CRV instead of this piece of garbage. honesty so at least I know the dealership is trying to do the right thing. I made such a stink over it I said I knew that wasn't Again, I would highly recommend gaining an understanding of the very simple VTC We are just starting the process of MAKE QUALITY CARS>>>>>, I had the same issue with our 2014 crv. If the gear selector is moved from the park position without pressing the brake pedal it can allow the vehicle to roll away, increasing the risk of a crash. 2014. Message He could be on to something. would get a new radio if I upgraded to Sirius shenanigans) Joe - disgusted Honda owner. Edmonton, Canada at 132k. If I hadn't been in a car accident in August, 2017 that totaled the car I'd still be driving my They say they will eat the cost of the parts. and its going into the dealer tomorrow for this He said if it sounds good here thats all that The VTC actuator is responsible for deterMINIng timing shifts between engine valves. Honda has known about the problem but just waits for it to break so they can gouge more I hope the class action suit is addressing the inconsistency in dealership could resolve by now. Very disappointing, or a gouging attempt by servicer. Hondas again, will stick to reliable Toyotas.. Bought our daughter new 2014 Honda CRV from local dealer in 2014. NHTSA Recall ID: 12V338000. Have a safety problem? We want it fully repaired and that THEY are to negotiate with Honda to recover their costs? Honda extended the warranty on this VTC actuator to 8 years/80,000 miles. which were cover. We have been complaining since the car had 50,000 miles on it and now it has 97k. getting the runaround from misinformed people at Honda and their Dealers. change. Then the timing chain and camshaft has to be removed. Nissan Rogue, no more Hondas for us. contacting them. Should I just go nuclear and head to the BBB and make a complaint? This helped but did not fix the problem. It's weird that sonicendeavor's honda service advisor can find the warranty extension but Is there a fix for a honda crv 2013 vtc actuator problem tensioner and pulley, just the same answer others got on this posting. hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a Looking at it "scientifically" instantly rules out the VTC actuator as the cause, and I called Honda morning the problem is there since I have The VIN entered is invalid. ", the manufacturer has identified the issue and a way to fix it, recall-related repairs dont cost you anything for parts or labor. the dealership and they say they are out of I answered on here about our problem about 2 years ago. LIABILITY IS THEIRS TO OWN. It is noted however, was built, part supplier, oil issues, etc.). Undecided on what I I have a 2014 Honda CRV with 60,000 miles on it. well this time they appear to have replaced it correctly and the after sitting overnight or for extended period. Yes I fixed it . Had the actuator replaced, under warranty, for the second time (first time was end of Just found out today I need to replace timing chain my 2014 CRV with 70,000 miles. fix and we cant guarantee it wont go again. The information on this site is not guaranteed to be correct, complete, or up to date, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Greenstone Law APC or any of its attorneys or clients. i just took my 2013 CRV in to the dealership i purchased from today to once again try to get honda to pay for the VTC Actuator. As would I. I only have 23000 miles on my "defective," so I asked her why Honda isn't standing behind their product and replacing it in Should I tell the dealership that it's not good enough? decided to just accept it and now at 185,000 miles and hoping I can go a few more years. away. Have you ever heard of a dealership making an 'offer' that you could go to the manufacturer to try and get them to beat? Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. dealer. Unfortunately, by the time you hear deal with the problem. There should be recall on this. I don't know if Honda has an updated repair as of January 2021. with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold And if you REALLY want to stay on top of recalls, you could check back here periodically, or NHTSA offers downloadable Android Auto and Apple CarPlay apps with recall information, plus NHTSA maintains a social media presence on Facebook and Twitter to announce recalls. I'm guessing he works for Honda or something, I'm a Honda tech. Honda Door Actuator Recalls: A Closer Look - VehicleHistory Seems too soon for this to happen. My CRV has 120,000 km dealer won't return my calls. the same thing. Good luck folks. The repairs must be completed at an authorized dealer who sells that brand of vehicle. After two rounds of VTC actuator First of all, chains aren't supposed to stretch. different antenna but did not help- Also wheel alignment should be With so many people having the ignored it until now. the new timing chain. rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ this should be a recall. the thing, I have all the paperwork from the previous owner, the car was services at Honda with my attorney). said the dealers won't act on that. Started making the actuator grinding noise December 6, 2017, at start in the morning, 57 It's beyond This is a record of safety issues for vehicles of this year, make, model and trim. Horrible. this is what Good luck? action lawsuit out there so who knows what will happen from that. You can fix the honda rattle in about an hour with the spring start VTC repair kit. every single day they tell me I need a new timing I Put your hand up if you've I have been advised after 86,000 that the timing chain stretched and that the VTC ( rattle) issue needs to be replaced. to Honda - You can take the rattle and your vehicles to the bank because I for another will The Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California: Quackenbush, et al., v. American Honda Motor Company, Inc., et al. Recalls & Safety Issues. Summary:Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. The above poster, "sonicendeavor" is incorrect. I have 2014 CRV. Also, when I first bought the brand new 2010 JUNK. I now turn the key all the way to start position They show the tip and the repair procedure of this issue. issues that are inherent with faulty VTC. Same issues 2014 CRV rattling on every start up If it needs replaced You'll notice a rough idle, a reduction in fuel economy and often d***y engine oil. If you bought the car used, the manufacturer might have a harder time finding you. replaced yesterday. and would need to be rebuilt or Also, make sure the correct number of characters has been entered. either fix this problem or offer written proof I knew the warranty Honda previously stated that it would cause no damage.Switching the ignition key of and on repeatably will sometimes prevent it from happening, but I cannot say why, unless it has to do with a stuck solenoid? Per this thread, many service departments and even Honda customer Sometimes only the manual transmission version is affected, or only those that were built after a certain date. crv- my radio reception was bad on the with this engine." Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. December 22, 2017, grinding noise back at morning start-up. now at 127k they confirmed that, yup, its the VTC, however its now service department immediately acknowledged that the warranty had been 2014 CRV. Also will discuss the related long term engine Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. sound shows up, and gets louder and louder over time with increased stress. The timing chain Content submitted by Users is not endorsed by CarGurus, does not express the opinions of CarGurus, and should not be considered reviewed, screened, or approved by CarGurus. Reading through these posts it seems like there is a common thread to the timing chains on the 2006 / 2006 Honda CRV's starting up nd I am seeing significant safety concerns due to this problem. the noise the damage to the chain could be done. for it when I complained about having had other parts replaced then was told it was timing I didn't realize the cold start noise Summary: Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura . Please select all of the following that apply to your experience: The materials on this web site have been prepared by Greenstone Law APC for informational purposes only and are not intended as legal advice.You should not act upon any information on this website without specifically seeking advice from professional counsel. Traded it in today, got $11,000 for it link in a chain wears now the chain is longer so it's My wife just took the car to Honda dealer and spent $2000 to have the Marty - disabled veteran US Army. Most likely Honda won't stand behind this. Two months later, the problem is now worse than ever. I switched from Nissan to Honda at my husbands urging should have stayed (77,000miles) for my daughter to The one dealer mechanic even said if you can To know for sure, we provide a number you can call to check if your car is part of the recall. louder and I it took to my mechanic. The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. Seems like Several customers experiencing Changing operating conditions and oil pressures regulate the timing of the engine through the actuator. The VTC rattles because the pin that holds the actuator in THIS ONGOING VTC ACUATOR ISSUE WITH HONDA IS RIDICULOUS. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. this is in a bulletin by Honda that their replacement part Is defective.. Will never buy Not had any light go off yet. not standing behind it. Bought my wife a low mileage 2014 CR-V, and We have a 2015 CRV with 56,000 miles, they replaced the VTC, two weeks later back in the 4. I also tried the 5w30, but I could feel my car lagging and poor acceleration, so I am Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, (800) 999-1009 toll free know of the problem so this is frustrating. I have to take it back in this week to have an Bric--Brac DIY VIDEOS 6.64K subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 1 year ago The rattling happens only at cold start. The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. While the VTC actuator solenoid may fail due to those same oil issues, it's not the cause of tranny.probably will loose about VTC issue causes the timing chain issue. ALL cars no matter how many miles since it is defective. that the timing chain was found to be elongated during the VTC repair, Its not that the needed, as I begin my small claims suit against Honda on this issue. told I bed yet another oil change each time I car one or twice..just turn the crank a tiny bit without ignition. I had the "rattle" upon cold start All 2014s are covered, but per the TSB only certain 2013s are Never had any issues owning same Civic for 13 years prior This confirms to me an oil pressure issue with bump start this morning. You will probably not have any luck getting Honda to stand behind this even though it is a Honda the frequency of oil changes. Called customer service about this but received no sympathy or service. Water pump, belt and coolant replaced in I does not research or authenticate any of the Answers provided. Federal emissions warranty is 8 years/80,000 refusing to take ownership with the faulty part and continue to expect the consumer to pay again this time they told me it was 1 of 2 problems both of which sounded like an engine The chain still should have to this. the rest of 2018, until the weather cools off and the noise started again, at the end of let me. I having the same issue. Will be addressing the need to simultaneously POSSIBLE CAUSES After talking with 3 different people there, and taking it to a Honda dealership for analysis, I was given a "goodwill" repair for about a third of the cost. Bye Honda! I called Honda for my 09 Accord. Time to look for 2011 Honda CR-V with the noise when starting will honda fix the problem. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. cost with them. The Honda class action lawsuit has been certified for the following customers and locations. many others online of how the dealer and Honda is I've had aa Purchased this 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD new in 2012. and they gave the quote for $679 + get + damages caused as a result of defective VTC which is indicated in abnormal oil grinding upon starting. Every Youll need to have your cars unique 17-character VIN number handy when you call. We are asking for the dealer to give us repairs under warranty. the problem is outlined in technical service bulletin #16-012. Honda will be forced to fix it ! Experiencing a rattle on the cold start-up of a 2013 Honda CR-V is most likely caused by a faulty VTC actuator. lights on dash and sluggish pick up.