To bad this place is ridiculously expensive, you only get 33% of your sales. The clients like to waste money for a more expensive model at TSquid, perhaps knowing that the artist will get shafted with a measly 40% return, and that's that. You have to realize that TS is recognized by autodesk and even had a direct tab link to their site in max itself. If anyone has been to New York they will have noticed that Fao Swartz a toy store in the center of Manhattan is creating 3D printable action figures. Professional Rigged 3D Female Models Toggle Navigation; 3D Models New & Unrated Rigged Price. It's an example of waste of human recourses and time, because how many more are performing this same conversion work without telling? You said you have considered closing your store here, I get that but why not just keep it up? I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there" BUT this is still not as infuriating as a personal account falling once a month with all the statistics! Such an arrogant attitude. For me CGTrader is the best and CGTrader has the best structure of a 3d site !!! Plus, if you express constructive ideas on the forums, you know you'll get listened to. User experience and User interface is much better to manage your store, and higher royalty. We even stopped publishing new models there. Lots of people buy posters to print and put on their walls especially students. They could put down an amount between 1 to 5 bucks as a deposit and after sampling the model as you suggested they could deduct that amount from the final sale. And IMHO search is an area where CGT shoul focus first. In the long run I'm going to quit selling on TS also. Answer (1 of 7): I'm a CGtrader member for almost two years now and in my opinion it is the best platform for stock media developers available today. I'm just dreading that sober moment when TS offers to buy CGT to kill off the competition. I have met a bunch of really good artists here that I have had the pleasure of working with. In short I propose an integration of global search ore collections made by designers. 3D stock would have main subs like architectural, medical, automotive, etc). Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. Search is terrible, and lost if you have to go backwards a page. So good luck "shopping elsewhere" dear customer, this is turning into a monopoly slaughterhouse and a 3D warzone. @interate CGI . TS going down. But at the same time they require all rights to the model, and the model is removed from sale at all sites. We can't even communicate on Ts, and that in an age of supper connectivity, it's just the world on his head. TurboSquid has stopped working in WM and lost some buyers in the middle East countries and Asia. CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. Chocofur.com6. Cubebrush. [google14]url:http://www.google.com. Is it fair if I do? If they want free models then they can go elsewhere!!! when cgtrader change his frontpage i stop selling products bad :(. Apart from this it would be nice to have a system that promotes collaborative action to make the products themselves better. tax on top of a high 60% that TS keeps. - Guides/Tips for sellers regarding prices/quality to minimize the undercutters problem. In fact my sells on TS are actually going down while they go up on CGt. (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). For example, make affiliation partnerships between people/storeowners possible. Matt Wisdom describes Turbosquid as "a sort of Ebay" when in fact Turbosquid works exactly the same as classic "supermarket providers" where the reseller profits the most from the producers by keeping them totally apart from the customers. It's sad cgtrader promote only printing models and forget about regular models. In fact, 61% comes out against 40%, since the paypal commission on cgtrader is borne by the seller, the site pays commission on turbosquid. If you continue to price your models higher on TurboSquid, you will will not be able to publish your content on TurboSquid, and we will temporarily take your current models offline. These people quote Sun Tzu when you talk to them, so guess their future plans for you. They're doing competitions, and that attracts artists, at least. I wont be using TurboSquid due to their royalty system and the fact that I would have to hunt down non-existing forms to prove I am not an American resident and thus avoid paying 30% govt. This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. Maybe they think Ts provides almost same model but its just better, etc. So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. Guys really have the potential to screw greedy monopoly and earn some decent position on the market. Plus giving much higher royalties, instantly paid, much better support, publishing system, etc. Its great way to compete and fair . But they must realise that attracting more buyers only through more aggresive marketing is not enough. (These stats can be confirmed as true by CGtrader staff, we have no problem with that). My initial idea was that Ts had some clients that do not know anything outside of Ts. Just my opinion, but look at homepage. I think posting links to showcase your model in an animation or to show how a rig works is extremely advantageous. This is not a "fight" between NoneCG and Turbosquid, but a struggle between different ways of doing business: the classic closed market or a more open one based on a Fair Business model and full comunication between the producer, the marketer and the customer. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. found jet another working example that makes CGt stand out. I was stunned to get informed there was no fraud protection (yes people, you pay 60% cut and get no fraud protection). Just my fifty cents. personally CGTrader is the second site where I realize more sales, I think we should avoid generalizing his own experience. Every market needs time, every business needs it. This is a photorealistic high-quality 3D full-body scan female character, rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Realistic White Male and Female Head Bundle. Sure, but I won't rinse and repeat the whole uploading process if it happens though. 2. I'm really happy to see CGTrader growing. Most people don't care a bit about all this. "This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. If you have any questions about these items before you purchase, please contact us at https://support.turbosquid.com/ CGtrader.com3. @captainmarlowe Thanks a lot for a lot of valid points regarding search and categorization! the only advantages in cgtrader are the big rates for clients. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. This place is indeed different and allot closer to what we actually need, I can't imagine the core principal on witch this place is founded would change as it will prove to be the one and only way to be future proof in this supper connected world. Having said that creating models of that high end quality is quite the burden on 3D modelers who just do it as a hobby or work 3D part time so a lot of artists are moving away from TS because they can't sell their regular models on there anymore. If CGT wants to play big and attract high quality traffic and designers/buyers, it has to invite the sellers to opt for a more mature approach in my humble opinion. There is other sellers that don't have any problem doing the same: I wouldn't ever use their site just on principle. I stumbled across the same issues! CG Trader. CGtrader is more in line with modern economics and following the model of open participation businesses, all these things make it have the hallmarks of successfully serving a growing team with highly ambitious members and top talented achievers (and also stronger support of the CG community itself). After that response I selected all my models and took them offline. TS beside ripping off taxes have a terrible support, I just was told in the civilized manner to F OFF, as I complained on an admin who kept my 3D model suspended for over 4 days. That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. Don't forget those young people are going to shape the future of this market and if we want to have a flourishing market then we need lots of well trained people in it. 3. Most of the Ts artists also moved their work over here and almost everyone knows that, just not the ones hoe are exclusive, it's not going to take too long now before they systematically start breaking the exclusive contract when they see sales going down every month and things going up over here. Although I agree the presentation of CGtraders home page is heavily focused at 3D printing, NoneCG did not suffer ANY drop in sales. rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Naked Fitness Blonde Woman with Tied Hair, max c4d unitypackage upk max ma c4d max ma fbx max. For me is more offending that kids are able to sell models here. "Even being a diamond doesnt seem to give me the benefits of sale coz TS takes so much from my sales (everyone's sale) that i would hardly call it profit or any acceptable income. I'm just an end-user, one of the people you guys sell to, and the site is a large part of the issue, in multiple ways. I'm always in favor for more options and less restrictions. As every site takes a small cut from the sales of a model. I think this game can only be won by the best community building force and that is CGt. I wanted to test if clients compare sites (eventually wanted to avoid clients would use the expensive Ts platform to get my items). Fact is, the best is where is can make the most sales. Think about the best online stores today when people search for lamps on Amazon they will only find lamps in their search and that is why they keep buying on Amazon because it is a highly efficient and professional site where the buyers don't get lost or frustrated looking for what they want and can spend their time searching for the best quality product based on their budget. disavantages: low budget clients willing to get low quality models for 5$. Selling 3D models on Ebay or Amazon would probably generate problems? I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. That's why I won't model one single model for online sale until this heinous situation is rectified. CGt basically needs to be good at one thing, "facilitating a sales platform". The paypal commission is paid 2 times - 1 when the model is bought, 2 times - when money is paid to the seller. Do not forget to check out rigged vehicles, guns and other objects, including environments, in addition to rigged characters to increase the control and interactivity you can achieve in your project. I am hoping that never happens Exnihilum! I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. It is the best RR in the world ! I have it is about 5%. Turbosquid has too many models Using TurboSquid products in Browser based games. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. A shitstorm war is going on between the "Wisdom" brothers & their Top $ Corporate Investors against Marius' CGtrader, who is leading the inclusive people that don't dance to the song of dangling shiny coins in front of their eyes just for the time being and the now. In something limonadinis says is true, but I agree with tomislavveg. Check my store https://apkvisa.com/dungeon-quest-mod-apk/, Very motivating and supportive too.Hope you keep on sharing a greater amount of your ideas. But there are questions that are not achievable for TS, and they will not go to such steps, and it is this: 1. CGT is the only website that really understand both the artists and customer needs! Order 3D models. Personally I don' t see anything offending on human body, everyone has one but I respect that it could be offending to someone (especially kids) so it should be censured. From moment I have enough things to sell here, I would come clean with myself and close my TS account with great pleasure. Turbosquid has the traffic and so you get the sails. I had hoped that CGTrader would want to be the kings but i have to be honest if you licence a thing only here you have to own it forever, as you cannot sell that licence. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. Honestly, who wants to buy nudes anyway? I hope I'll have better selling results there. and we lived the evolution of Turbosquid from being a pioneer of the 3D assets market working alongside the real content developers to become a typical corporation with financial backing from angel investors that only cares about financial results and is trying to strive the 3D market towards a monopoly where they can control both the producers and the customers, where acting as just a middleman gets Turbosquid the most profit from both. A little more than a year passed since our public disagreement with Turbosquid policies and behavior that ended our relationship as content creator and reseller. former the 3d studio, 3D export, creative crash and Turbosquid). TS staff do their best and is not responsible for the strategic choice of TS I doubt the owner will say no to a hefty clump sum, no questions asked, in exchange for site keys and source. - Do you think that a company like Turbosquid, managed by/for corporate funding with clear monopolistic intentions is more likely to improve your situation as a content creator in the future? From buyer perspective, i think CGTrader also have lots of advantages. The next thing CGT needs to do is get in with Ebay, Amazon, walmart etc places where everyone buys not just 3D enthusiasts and that regular people trust with their money. I removed all products from TS. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. Considering it as a seller, CGTrader is NOT better because I have almost no sales at all while I have about 10 sales every month on TS. Determining the optimal cost of the models is an important and difficult moment. Of course if you have a PC with quad processors over 16 GB of ram things will be different but be warned students and low end users. The stores/collections idea sounds good but maybe a simpler voting system for any product/seller will give an easy ranking system to take in count for search results among other factors. If there is a problem they will fix it for you. Toys (212) Buy or download free 3D models for your CG projects, film and video production, animation, visualizations, games, VR/AR, and others. http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/d7b76144-43db-4cbe-b27b-8ea42b3a7cb0/TurboSquid_Low_Sales.png They then review the model and contact seller to fix it. First of all make great and spectacular models for it and promote it on forums, facebook, linkedin groups and forums. Cgtrader better sell my shoes here than ts.plus webmoney plus royalty rate. Same for me, here. I was thinking of ok if the ts is shit why not using other marketplace with the cgt specially if both accept selling in other marketplace, You have zero 3D models uploaded here. - Explaining on a personal basis to certain designers, even under banning threat, that creating very basic objects afters tutorials and selling them for 10$ with comments like : "my best model ever" will only hamper CGTrader credibility ; also that taking a poser or DAZ model, posing it (or even rigging it) in another software and adding a few details to it is still an obvious copyright infringements, if not a simple steal They said fraud protection is only reserved for exclusive sellers. We need to broaden our spectrum and clientele if we want to make more money. I have always been amazed at how TS can pull off their selling stunt, I've got better stuff AND cheaper on here than on TS but the sales over there totally dominate. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. A own store where you can fill your offers with stuff found in the large pool would account for a thumbs up for the people hoes products get placed in those stores. https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/woman/female-hand-realistic https://www . They often would ask me to just send them a model through email and pay me through paypal like in the old days. Gritsuk : Hello Friends, glad to present you my model Female Hand Realistic. But i think its not only the responsability of cgtrader to turn this around. Maybe you think my words are disproportionate or naive but mark them now. Unless you have a huge ass :) You can not keep all aspects of these markets covered, so you will only be average on all of them or even worse. I will very much want to peruse. Cgtrader cannot compare to certain 3d markets. On the contrary, comparing 2013 to 2014 for the exact same period (January to August) our sales INCREASED in a 45%. So click on a category. This used to be the case in TS as well, but the issue is being solved, this will have to happen here on CGTrader as well. I imagine a totally different mentality is going on in the Ts room, where top talents probably just like to leave the building because a few individuals like to keep things in check (you know like in the old top down pyramidal structured way). I think we just need so some massive killer models of epic proportions that the 3D modeling community cant ignore. It still remains a puzzle to me, were those few now actually using their CGt account because there was no other way or did I just lose those and just gained some new clients from somewhere ells? Hi from Will and Mr Data :) :] Here at CGtrader you can do all of that and much much more which is awesome!! This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. CGtrader website is much bather coded and it just need some time to get on top. We finally have some real genuine completion for the best sales platform. Remember The3DStudio? I am getting more sales on Cgtrader than TS though :P and CGtrader is easier to use. IMHO that is main area where CGT must up their game significantly. You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. We'll let you know about that soon - all CGT sellers will receive via email, so stay tuned! Another thing that makes CGT better than TS is the friendships that one is able to make within the artist community. About TS: My initial stance on this was, ok fine then my Ts account can stay up for those few that seemingly do not know anything ells outside of Ts. ", Exactly, no one knows the model better than the one who made this model. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. CGt embraces all modern communication technologies which is critical to establish such a place. Uploading new product is so much more intuitive and easier than TS. A real pointless task. Hopefully this will start another interesting discussion . . I was a seller on Ts for very long time but never liked it, felt the 60% cut was unjust, the aggressive tactics towards competitors was bad, the self centeredness to keep artist away from own clients was wrong, and there are many more reasons why it never felt home to me. Advertising? Sure you get a lot more income from The3Dstudio. There are tons of things better here on CGtrader, most notably we get served very well for extremely low cost. And good thing that you decided to tell about - such things should go public and be discussed. Searching for specific terms applying to a specific model, the results on Google are nearly on first page. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. It might be a good idea to see what the customer experience is with various market places by making an experimental purchase at each and seeing who has the most effective methods of enticing return visits and encouraging word-of-mouth bumps. Thingiverse remains the king for licensing, as you can transfer the licence within the site. I guess it is because of the youth of the site, which has not yet reached its maturity. It would be great to have more of your feedback so we could make it better for buyers. In 2020, I've opened a CGT account and start selling interesting 3D Models. Is it the return guarantee if not satisfied? And it offers a more strategic dimension. A man can dream on :]. CGtrader staff admits to some degree to this problem (see the comment of Dalia Lasaite) and promises to redesign the homepage. So i need to try to make money with my models as long as possible, means as long it is not uploaded to anywhere else. It seems to me that over time a CGTrader will be able to overtake TurboSquid in many positions, if TS does not change its policy. 3D is great for creating things that can restore old products. I see no point in closing when you might as well keep it open and get a couple sales. Chat with Support 24/7 3D Bala - Female Rigged Character 3D model ma, ma, obj, and fbx TurboSquid : , , 3D . Needed something better and found it at CGt. Maybe they would understand that sellers can't be treated as slaves. flob3d: I don't know if Jonathan invented the CheckMate, but what I can say is that Jonathan is a good professional and he often helped me a lot, so I have no complaints to make. Yep.. However, we have detected that you have set your prices back numerous times after we have made appropriate changes. Say you happen to be a great render and lighting specialist but not so well a modeler, you see this nice models that have potential but the presentation is very bad (from good modeler with no render skills). - CGTrader pays a LOT more than TS; TS *keeps* 60% unless you sell exclusively on their site and join their "Squid Guild". Luckily, non of my sells on TS were refunded so far and i had 3 refunds on CGT, 2 of them was caused by technical reasons from CGT side. And it is convenient for the buyer and profitable for the seller. [link="http://www.google.com"]google1[/link] Everything about it is ugly, i just sell a model on cgTrader and another model on Turbosquid, cgtrader gives me 71% and i feel ok , turbosquid gives me 40% and i feel like i get raped, besides its tedious way of uploading methods im done with those guys, i will stick with CGtrader, thanks for the information, still 60 to 40 is a big difference. But I will look there only because I know what is cgtrader and how it works. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. TS has terrible support, i had stupid responses from them during my interaction with them. And between CGTrader and TurbuSquid, I think, let everything will be decided in a reasonable competition. As we think that CGtrader holds the best core for these kind of improvements, I would like to hear the opinion of Marius or any other CGtrader representative about the ideas recently proposed in this forum, specially: