The major problem with light loads is getting enough pressure to provide a good gas seal. Ive seen many elk taken cleanly with a .270 Winchester, and my own longest shot on an elk was on a big New Mexico bull at 400 yards using a .270 Winchester with a 150-grain Nosler Partitionone step and down. Why the .35 Rem. A 358Norma is a good fit for this action. from my E.R. Kali Parmley, Editor-in-chief of Bakccountry Hunter speaks with Bret Maffet of Franchi Firearms to discuss the all new Momentum All Terrain Elite. .35 caliber rifle cartridges have been around practically forever without ever really becoming popular. In the years since, the .35 Rem. Elk bullets must be tough enough to provide adequate penetration. Head to the range this week with American Rifleman staff as they discuss a trim little repeater from Savage Arms that comes chambered for the .22 WMR cartridge. That is quite a few cartridges considering that there is not a single best selling rifle cartridge in the bunch. Contributor Brad Fenson takes to the grill, to cook up some delicious venison burgers. I say that because so many reasonably successful yet hard kicking cartridges have been introduced in the last few years. Size aside, American elk are very tough creatures. This is because it was discontinued in the mid-1970s, and reintroduced by Remington in 2003. and the .32 Win. With the 250-grain bullet, it's better than the .30-06 on heavy game at close ranges. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction; that is one of the physical laws of our universe. Out of stock View Details . [/quote]. With a 200-grain bullet the .35 Whelen actually shoots a bit flatter than the .30-06 Sprg.
.358 Norma Magnum - Wikipedia it is one nice gun and made for tight places. Most were intended for .38-caliber handguns, but any bullet made for either the .38 Special or .357 Magnum can be loaded and shot in the .358 Norma Magnum with varying degrees of success. Can Coolers | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Find More Great NRA Publications Perfect For Every Interest, Discover Everything That The NRA Has To Offer. First, it will do everything the .338 will, and a bit more.
What Three Dozen Elk Cartridges Taught Me - Gun Digest Publisher Kevin Steele is in the Beretta booth with Logan Killam, the Shotgun Product Manager, to discuss the all new Beretta A300 Ultima Turkey. up to 0.358 inches and dubbed it the poor mans magnum.. Twenty years ago, I might have said .338 Winchester Magnum was the perfect choice for elk. It was recovered in bits and pieces. None of this can be said for either the .338 Winchester Magnum or the .375 H&H. You can never lead if you always follow; the other cartridges were designed to chase Winchesters success, while the .35 Rem. Frankly, I would not want to be without them. From the .35 Winchester (1903), .35 Remington (1906) and .351 Winchester Self-Loading (1907) to the later .358 Winchester (1955) and .350 Remington Magnum (1965), there has always been at least one .35-caliber cartridge in use. The .358 Norma can be loaded down to duplicate the performance of either of the two smaller cartridges. However, the small bore cartridges from .24 to .32 caliber have proven quite reliable on these smaller animals, so I am not going to argue that anyone needs a .35 to hunt CXP2 class game. factory load is a 250-grain Oryx bullet listed with a muzzle velocity of 2723 f.p.s. Synthetic wins over laminate because laminates, strongest of all, are also heaviest. Any listing you find for H-4895 can be modified by loading only 60 percent of the published minimum to create some very comfortable loads. was also the only cartridge of that original Remington family that was based on a different parent case. I believe in quality optics, but quality and magnification are not synonymous. I will go with the 35 Whelen BUT 9.3x62 will be cool due that you already have a 350 Rem mag, if you're opening the bolt face the 358 STA better option than Norma and 338-06 could be a nice choice too. Kevin Steele from Petersen's HUNTING speaks to Jordan Egli of Burris Optics about the all-new Veracity PH Riflescope. When chambered for cartridges such as the .243 Win., 6 mm Rem., .308 Win. I did secure properly head stamped Norma cases thinking we'd need them going over into the Yukon (no one ever checked). So are the .350 Remington Magnum and .358 Norma Magnum. All Rights Reserved. Got a nice .270 Win MTN Rifle donor 700. Heres a look at 10 of the most flexible long-range hunting cartridges. My favorite hunting round. If we compare the .300 Win. The .35 Whelen is a fine elk cartridge.
Enough Gun: Elk Stopping Power - Petersen's Hunting .358 Winchester: King Of The .35 Calibers - Gun Digest The Newton was supposedly loaded, by Western Cartridge, to 2,975 fps with a 250-grain bullet, but I, for one, would want to see the chronograph reading. Throw a belt on the .35 Newton and you couldnt tell the difference three feet away. Whelen would not. I would also expect it to handle anything in North America from deer to the big bears. So if you have a .375 (or larger) and a yen to take it elk hunting, be my guest. The .358 Norma Magnum, like the .358 Shooting Times Alaskan, generates a considerable amount of energy, but due to the caliber restrictions for dangerous game of most of the African countries, it falls shy of the markthe .375-inch bore is minimum for many countries. Of them all the one I still have is the 9,3X62. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Mag. We've got you covered. .22 LR7mm-08 Remington8mm Remington Magnum.338 Federal.224 Valkyrie.338-06 A-Square9.3x62mm Mauser.257 Weatherby Magnum.45-70 Government.300 H&H Magnum.25-06 Remington.30-06 Springfield6.5 Creedmoor.300 Remington Ultra Magnum7mm Remington Magnum.470 Nitro Express.280 Remington.300 Winchester Magnum.270 Winchester.222 Remington.45 ACP.404 Jeffery.44 Remington Magnum.41 Remington Magnum.243 Winchester.338 Winchester Magnum.357 S&W Magnum6.5-284 Norma8x57 Mauser.38 Smith & Wesson Special7x57mm Mauser9 mm Luger.35 Whelen.454 Casull.375 H&H Magnum.45 Colt.22-250 Remington10mm Auto.308 Winchester. I will go with the 35 Whelen BUT 9.3x62 will be cool due that you already have a 350 Rem mag, if you're opening the bolt face the 358 STA better option than Norma and 338-06 could be a nice choice too. I have used this cartridge on moose with excellent results.
Hornady has a Superformance load with a 200-grain SP at 2910 f.p.s. with a similar 180-grain bullet. However, should a hunter who enjoys using cartridges that arent among the most popular find a rifle chambered for the .358 Norma Magnum? Theres more to success than merely landing a good one on the chin. figure of 0.300 is desirable, and comparing similar cartridges, youll see the .350 Rigby comes in a bit behind the other popular choices of the day.
Behind the Bullet: .358 Norma Magnum - An Official Journal Of The NRA Had the .358 Norma Magnum been chambered in an American rifle, or at least promoted by an American company, the popularity of the cartridge may have been much greater than it is. The cartridge is closely related to the .308 Norma Magnum. Its still a fine choice, but I dont have a .338 right now. Read today's "The Armed Citizen" entry for real stories of law-abiding citizens, past and present, who used their firearms to save lives. To return to our boxing analogy, the .358 Norma Magnum not only has the Hammer of Thor, but it also offers an excellent jab, a good hook, a wicked uppercut and a variety of feints. They include both the AccuBond and the Partition 225-grain bullets with a muzzle velocity of 2800 f.p.s. Far more alternatives, in fact, than exist in several more popular caliber families. X-Vision Optics long-range ImpactThermal Scope (TS300) boasts a 640 x 480 thermal sensor that can detect big game well past 3,000 yards. The .358 has 24 percent more energy at the muzzle than the .300 Win. all were more powerful-and may have been excellent hunting cartridges-but they are gone; rejected by the shooting public and banished to the junk heap of obsolescence. I had the privilege of spending some time with a 1917 vintage take-down Rigby-Mauser rifle while on a hunt in Scotland, and the words sweet shooting came quickly to mind. Today we have better bullets than when I was a kid.
11 Great .338 Caliber Rifle Cartridges - Shooting Times As it was released in the first century of the 20th century, when the common boundaries of cartridge usage were being defined, the .350 Rigby Magnum was considered an all-around cartridge, especially in the more open terrain of British and German East Africa, known today as Kenya and Tanzania. This is comparable killing power to the long .375 H&H Magnum with a 300 grain bullet (ME 4331 ft. The .358 Norma Magnum is a rifle cartridge introduced in 1959 by Norma. Cartridges of .25 caliber and below are not ideal elk cartridges, especially if a big bull is a potential. For example, take the most powerful of the factory standardized .35's, the .358 Norma Magnum. was initially chambered in Remingtons Model 8 autoloader, soon followed by the Model 14 pump-action. The Swedish firm of A.B. Movement is more random in big country. when fired in a 7.5 pound rifle. Im voting no. In more recent times, the 1994 release of the .450 Rigby gave dangerous game hunters a bit more bullet weight than the .416 Rigby and has developed a small but devout following among both professional hunters and their clients alike. This standard (.30-06) length magnum cartridge drives a 250 grain bullet at a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2799 fps with 4350 ft. lbs. My 35 Whelen will run 250gr partitions at 2700 fps with power pro 2000 powder. is a wonderful cartridge, but nobody buys them. Blocker Outdoors Finisher gloves, headcovers and other accessories are available in Mossy Oak Bottomland and Mossy Oak Obsession NWTF camouflage patterns to match various turkey hunting terrain. The .350 Magnum has a case length of 2.742 inches, and an overall cartridge length 3.44 inches, so it will feel at home in a magnum-length receiver. The big case certainly made its reputation with the 250-grain bullets, as their sectional density gives excellent penetration on even the heavy-boned animals, and the .358 Norma can push them to a muzzle velocity of 2750 fps. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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Faster 6.5sthe new 6.5 PRC, the old .264, or the super-fast .26 Nosler and 6.5-300 Weatherbywill deliver more energy and open the range envelope a bit. All in, it weighed over 11 pounds, which is too heavy. The .350 Remington Magnum is the only cartridge that appears on both lists of current and obsolete calibers. G. Joined: Sep 2009. Back in 1983 Winchester introduced the .356 Win. Kevin Steele, Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING talks with JJ Reich of HEVI-Shot about the new offerings for 2023. Although such weight is rare, a big bull can exceed 1,000 pounds. As a "stopper" for use on dangerous game the .358 Norma is clearly superior to the .300 Magnums. the problem in this debate is we are crossing over in calibres, which means thrust on different sized pistons. Right now, I think that the Browning BLR lever-action rifle is the only production gun left on the market in .358 Win. Most ammunition makers have a 200-grain load, and Remington also has a 150-grain load with a muzzle velocity of 2300 f.p.s. but it does have the 22" barrel and the irons , looks and feels like a MTN rifle to me. from my E.R.
35 whelen vs everything else - Mississippi Gun Owners Hunting Shack 35WHELEN1N Game King 35 Whelen 225 gr Sierra GameKing Spitzer Boat-Tail - 20rd Box. Maybe it's a regular BDL? I have become a 35 cal. In the 80s, when Jack Carter was making his Trophy Bonded Bearclaw bullet by hand, I did some elk hunting with the 240-grain .375 version. It arrived with three other cartridges designed to compete with Winchesters popular lever-action lineup. The 6.5mm Creedmoor and the old 6.5x55 are sound minimal choices, adequate to 300 yards. in a rimmed cartridge that would work in a lever-action rifle. I shot my first bull elk in Montanas Pioneer Mountains on a snowy Thanksgiving in 1972. Its said that the French used it in World War I, but it probably didnt see much action. The parent of this cartridge is the .30-06 Springfield, which is necked-up to accept a bullet diameter of .358 in (9.1 mm).This cartridge is more powerful than its parent, especially in killing power on large game. The Whelen is a more sensible choice, but the Rigby isnt about sensibility, its about nostalgia and a connection to a bygone age. After ten years of not getting drawn I sold it it was too much gun for most of my hunting. Unlike either the .338 or .375, the .35 (.358-inch) has been a standard American caliber since 1900. As unmagical as that might sound, it's one of the hardest hitting non-magnum cartridges ever. Among my own favorites for the .358 Norma are the Nosler Partitions in both 225 and 250 grains, Swift A-Frames (225, 250, 280) and various Woodleighs, including the unique 310-grain Weldcore. and is a good cartridge for hunting the thick woods for deer, hogs, black bear or even elk. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Bertram Brass from Australia is a good source when you can get it, and Quality Cartridge makes a run of .350 Rigby every few years, but you could be waiting a considerable amount of time. Would be nice to have a 35 Wheelie, 350 Rem and a .358 Win. On June 26, 1959, Sweden's Ingemar Johansson demolished Floyd Patterson in the third round of their first heavyweight title fight in New York. No, its not exactly easy on the shoulder, but its not terrible either. This wonderful efficiency of the .35 calibers is especially remarkable when one considers that most all of these rounds are verging on obsolescence today.
Sometimes you get a point-blank shot; other times you need to stretch it a bit farther. This was not the factory bullet from the 1960s, with its mild-steel jacket, but a later one. Nosler has three loads in its Custom line. The ammunition situation is a little better than the rifles. into the deer woods, and I pine for what could have been. That load actually produced 2825 f.p.s. But in 2003 Remington decided to attempt a resurrection. As it was released in the first century of the . Shaw rifles 24-inch barrel. I have a .356 Win. .500 Nitro Express. of muzzle energy. But they are not essential, and despite their effectiveness, all magnums from .30 caliber upwards generate more recoil than many folks are comfortable withand are able to shoot well. The .45-70 is another very popular cartridge. In an age of ultra-specializatio in every field, and especially rifles, such versatility is almost an anachronism. Recoil was completely manageable, and it inspired me to begin the journey of having my own .350 Rigby rifle built. I have built all 3 several times for various customers and owned both the 358 Norma and the 9.3X62. Can this be made into a .358 Norma Mag or must I do a .35 Whelen. Fusion Ammo has a 200-grain with a muzzle velocity of 2800 f.p.s. But the .416 is certainly not the only cartridge to bear the Rigby surname; read the works of Walter Dalrymple Maitland Karamoja Bell, or Col. Jim Corbett and the .275 Rigbybetter known as the 7x57mm Mauserwill get all sorts of praise. That load has a maximum optimal range on 1000 pound game (like a big Alaskan moose or brown bear) of 151 yards. Thanks for any thoughts. The .25 Rem., .30 Rem. It did shine with 148gr Double ended wadcutters over a few grains of 700x shooting clover leaf groups at 50 yards, I used it all fall putting squirrels in the pot.
Behind the Bullet: .350 Rigby Magnum - An Official Journal Of The NRA The classic .350 Rigby Magnum load pushes a .358-inch diameter 225-grain bullet to a muzzle velocity of 2625 fps for 3,440 ft.-lbs. The .350 Rigby Magnum is, in the words of veteran Professional Hunter Robin Hurt, a perfect caliber to hunt lion and leopard. With a few exceptions, most African countries require a minimum of .375-caliber cartridges for thick-skinned dangerous game like Cape buffalo and elephant, and that makes sense in most instances.